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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b>
mediaevistik-bounces@mailman.uni-regensburg.de
[mailto:mediaevistik-bounces@mailman.uni-regensburg.de] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>B3RLIN@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 7. Juni 2007
02:18<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> mediaevistik@mailman.uni-regensburg.de<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: [Mediaevistik] Waffe</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hallo,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>ein
Ro(h)r im militärischen Sinne war im 15. Jahrhundert quasi ein
Schwarzpulverschießrohr. Nach Erfindung des Schwarzpulvers gab es seit dem 14. Jahrhundert
"Schießrohre" in Europa. Zunächst mit großem Kaliber (schweres
Geschütz) hergestellt, dienten sie anfangs der Verteidigung bzw. des
Angriffs (be)fest(igt)er Plätze. Dann wurden sie handlicher und konnten
- aufgrund der Angabe "in der hant" nachvollziehbar
- bei Waffebauseinandersetzungen mitgeführt werden. Man kann dieses
"Ror" - gemäß der Zeitstellung der Schamdocher'schen Chronik - also
als Handfeuerwaffe ausdeuten, ein Vorläufer des Gewehrs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Lesenswert
erscheinen mir in diesem Kontext die nachfolgenden, online erreichbaren Seiten:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a
href="http://hss.ulb.uni-bonn.de/diss_online/phil_fak/2003/seggern_birgit_von/0285.pdf">http://hss.ulb.uni-bonn.de/diss_online/phil_fak/2003/seggern_birgit_von/0285.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>mit
Abbildungen um 1500 bis 1540<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a
href="http://www.feuerwerkbuch.homepage.t-online.de/downloads/FWB_Inh.pdf">http://www.feuerwerkbuch.homepage.t-online.de/downloads/FWB_Inh.pdf</a> -
zur Zeitstellung passender Auszug: "Aber ein ander frag ob die büchs
weytter schyeß die klaine ror hab oder<br>
grosse ror ...."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a
href="http://www.stadtarchiv-schaffhausen.ch/SHArch3_d6.asp?startSequence=51&level1_ID=1&level2_ID=2&level3_ID=5&level4_ID=926&level5_ID=2842&suchbegriff=&suchbegriff2=&operator">http://www.stadtarchiv-schaffhausen.ch/SHArch3_d6.asp?startSequence=51&level1_ID=1&level2_ID=2&level3_ID=5&level4_ID=926&level5_ID=2842&suchbegriff=&suchbegriff2=&operator</a>=<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Auszug
(1415): "...macht ain ror den büchsenmaistern"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Beste
Grüße und ein gutes Vorankommen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Andreas
Trotz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In
einer eMail vom 06.06.2007 23:31:39 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt
g@dunphy.de:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-bidi-font-style:italic'>Kann jemand mit
<span class=spelle>waffenkundlichen</span> Kenntnissen mir mit einem Zitat aus
der Chronik von Georg <span class=spelle>Schamdocher</span> (15. <span
class=spelle>Jh</span>) helfen?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>In einer
Schlachtbeschreibung schreibt er:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-bidi-font-style:italic'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-bidi-font-style:italic'>Ich hielt auch <span
class=spelle>dabey</span>, ich <span class=spelle>hiet</span> aber nur <span
class=spelle>ain</span> <span class=spelle>Ror</span> in der <span
class=spelle>hant</span>.</span> <o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Was ist hier <span class=spelle>Ror</span>?<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Ein Gewehr? Stock? Lanze?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
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margin-left:35.4pt'><span class=grame><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>g</span></font></span><font color=black><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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